Hz. Mevlana and the Prophets

Rahmi Oruç Güvenç with his students, during a Mesnevi Sohbet. July 4th, 2018. Gokcedere, Yalova, Turkiye

This text is transcribed from a recording of a sohbet by Rahmi Oruç Güvenç. We do not know the date.

Oruç Güvenç: Hz. Mevlana’s teaching covers all universe, and this universal teaching found its place in many people’s hearts. Many non-muslims, Christians, Jews said: ‘We saw Jesus in Hz. Mevlana, we saw Moses in Hz. Mevlana.’ When he passed away, they all competed with each other to take part in the burying ritual. 

What kind of teaching is this that calls for the heart of every person?

He says:

“Love comes only from true knowledge. Love, Aşk, is uncountable, immeasurable love. Love makes copper turn into gold. Love turns bitter into tasty. Love makes the muddy water clear water. Love makes the dead become alive.”

Hz. Mevlana

Since the path to love goes through true knowledge, how do we acquire the true knowledge? 

It requires the transformation of the wrong intellect to the right intellect. The negative side of the mind in Sufism is called ‘vehim’. The negative sides of our nefses are focused on that part. Anger, hatred, jealousy, fury, oppression, manipulation, using force to make people accept something, ordering, controlling. 

When we look at the opposite sides of these qualities, what do we see?

Helping, sharing, mercy, friendship, brotherhood, togetherness, unity, mercy, compassion, tolerance. All these are qualities that make a human being human being. 

In Hz. Mevlana, we see that the Islamic principles are all very reasonable and very humanistic, and these also have the quality of uniting all the true knowledge of all religions. 

In the Qur’an, Allah says: “There is no separation between the prophets.” 

Therefore, understanding a prophet in the right way means understanding all prophets in the right way. 

Hz. Mevlana says: “The difference of language is not important. What is important is the unity of the heart because Allah owns the languages.”


Rahmi Oruç Güvenç
Gökçedere, Yalova, Türkiye

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